Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:14 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:13 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:45 pm
Posts: 94
Location: Windermere, FL
Does anybody have any experience with what tape, adhesive, and procedure you would use to repair it ?
Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:17 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm
Posts: 721
First name: Bob
Last Name: Gramann
City: Fredericksburg
State: VA
Zip/Postal Code: 22408
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
There’s a lot of pressure on that seam. Making a lasting repair is likely to be difficult. Replacement belts are available for most machines. Amazon has several for this machine.

If I were to attempt it, I might try gluing a strip of fabric across the seam. I wouldn’t expect the repair to hold up.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:16 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:45 pm
Posts: 94
Location: Windermere, FL
OK - Thank You


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:50 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:15 pm
Posts: 7378
First name: Ed
Last Name: Bond
City: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
If you’re not dead set on repair, I would replace.

Any piece of wood you run through it is worth more than a replacement conveyor belt is, and could be ruined if the repair goes janky while you’re sanding it. To my mind, not worth the risk.

https://www.amazon.com/performax-16-32- ... veyor+belt



These users thanked the author meddlingfool for the post (total 2): Kbore (Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:27 am) • Michaeldc (Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:56 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:01 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:59 pm
Posts: 379
First name: Ken
Last Name: Lewis
City: Mt. Pearl
State: NL
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Supergrit in Pa. A good source.
https://www.supergrit.com/ryobi-1600-je ... 16-32.html



These users thanked the author Ken Lewis for the post: Kbore (Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:57 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:43 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 5968
I'm assuming the seam uses a lap joint. I would try contact cement or rubber cement. Contact cement gives a stronger bond with some flexibility, while rubber cement is more flexible with a weaker bond. Eventually you will probably need a new belt.



These users thanked the author Clay S. for the post: Kbore (Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:01 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:27 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 am
Posts: 528
Location: St. Charles MO
First name: Karl
Last Name: Borum
State: MO
Zip/Postal Code: 63303
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
This Barge All-Purpose TF Cement is the bomb.
https://a.co/d/0KVauhc
I would consider this a "permanent" cement.
I would think a very thin leather strip lap bonded (per @Clay S. ) to your belt with this cement would work for a very long time.


I've been making leather scabbards/ covers for my expensive chisels and dragon files and was stitching the edges with waxed cord. I found the cement alone was not reversable and no longer even stitch the sides. Remarkable bonds.....

_________________
Measure Twice,

Karl Borum


Last edited by Kbore on Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:56 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:47 pm
Posts: 2520
First name: Jay
Last Name: De Rocher
City: Bothell
State: Washington
I wonder what the chances are of gluing it back together and having it end up being "square" enough to track properly. A replacement belt I bought several years ago turned out to be out of square and no matter how I adjusted the tension screws on the roller, it would not track properly.

_________________
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right - Robert Hunter



These users thanked the author J De Rocher for the post: Kbore (Fri Sep 20, 2024 2:26 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:53 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:45 pm
Posts: 1336
Location: Calgary, Canada
Status: Amateur
J De Rocher wrote:
I wonder what the chances are of gluing it back together and having it end up being "square" enough to track properly. A replacement belt I bought several years ago turned out to be out of square and no matter how I adjusted the tension screws on the roller, it would not track properly.

My thoughts exactly.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:55 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:21 am
Posts: 3596
First name: Brad
Last Name: Combs
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
The one I have on mine now is a replacement and is the same way. I just gave up and it rides the rail on the right side. :D


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

_________________
Insta - https://www.instagram.com/cbcguitars/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cbcguitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:17 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:26 pm
Posts: 487
First name: Carl
Last Name: Dickinson
City: Forest Ranch
State: California
Zip/Postal Code: 95942
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I had the same problem with mine. After trying a couple of new belts that tracked to the right, I got new bushings for the rollers and crowned the drive roller with tape. It still did it. I finally located some of the jet ceramic blocks to protect the metal from getting a groove sanded in it, and sold the machine (I had located a used 22-44 OSC for a good price. It tracks straight.). I noticed there was a slight offset in the seam edge on both the belts, so if you see that on a new belt, send it back!



These users thanked the author CarlD for the post (total 2): Kbore (Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:44 pm) • bcombs510 (Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:00 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:22 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:53 am
Posts: 2104
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
First name: Anthony
Last Name: Zlahtic
City: Toronto
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
meddlingfool wrote:
If you’re not dead set on repair, I would replace.

Any piece of wood you run through it is worth more than a replacement conveyor belt is, and could be ruined if the repair goes janky while you’re sanding it. To my mind, not worth the risk.

https://www.amazon.com/performax-16-32- ... veyor+belt


Dang, I wish I had seen this post earlier. I just bought a used Supermax 16-32 that came with a torn conveyor belt. The Amazon prices even shipped to Canada is way cheaper than what I paid. At least I got a pretty good deal on the Supermax.



These users thanked the author Anthony Z for the post (total 2): Kbore (Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:27 am) • meddlingfool (Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:37 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: sdsollod and 51 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com